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My thought on why Prometheus was made the way it was.

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oduodu

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(I Used This As A Reply To An Earlier post But Got No Reply And So Decide To Start My Own Thread. By The Way Link To Http://Whatculture.Com/Film/Prometheus-6-Answers-To-The-Key-Questions.Phppossible Answers For A Few More Questions) I Am A Huge Alien And Prometheus Fan. So Maybe In Defence Of Ridley Scott And Prometheus I Would Like To Run A Few Theories/Statements/Ideas/”Just Wondered If” By You Gentleman And Then Drawing My Conclusions From This. Feel Free To Comment. Theories/Statements/Ideas/”Just Wondered If”: 1.) Ridley Scott Wanted Prometheus To Be An R Rated Film. 2.) Ridley Scott Wanted To Do An Alien 5/ Alien Prequel / Movie Explaining Sj And Purpose Of Eggs On Ship Since There Was A Huge Demand From Years Of Blog Speculation. 3.) Times Are Hard And In The Current Economic Environment Worldwide Any Company Would Like To See A Return On Investment. 4.) At The Following Link(Posted Previously In A Thread Of Mine) : Http://Io9.Com/5917448/All-Of-Your-Lingering-Prometheus-Questions-Answered Damon Lindelof Makes The Following Statement: “All I'll Say In Response To Your Question Is, Nothing Is An Accident In Prometheus. Every Single Decision That Is Made By Ridley Scott Is Made For A Very Specific Reason And Purpose.” 5.) As You Will See In This Discussion Lindelof And Ridley Discussed The Story In Great Detail And It Seems To Me That Ridley Had The Final Say In What The Plot Was Going To Be Which Seems To Suggest To Me That Ridley Had A Very Detailed An Accurate Idea In What He Wanted To Do In A Sequel For Prometheus And Therefore In Prometheus Itself. So The Character Development, Plot Line, Dialogue, Illogical Decisions By The Crew Etc. Was All Deliberate Things Put Into The Story By Ridley. Someone Like Ridley Scott Wouldn’t Let Things Like That Up To Chance. So From The Above I Would Like To Draw The Following Conclusions/Make The Following Points/Try To Find A Sense For Why The Movie Is Way It Is. Here Goes: Ridley Had To Able To Ensure Fox That An R Rated Movie Would Be Able To Pay For Itself And In The Long Run Continue To Bring In Revenue Long After It’s Theatrical Release While Stimulating Interest In A Sequel. So I Feel Ridley Was Between A Rock And A Hard Place But Felt Even Though The Movie Wouldn’t Outright Please The Die Hard Alien Fan It Least Would Continue The Franchise Of The Alien Universe And Continue To Give Us Hope To Get Those Questions Answered. In Trying To Keep Everybody Happy He Had To Come To A Compromise That First Pleased Fox Then The Fans While Finishing The Years Of Speculation About The Unsolved Mysteries. Yes This Film Had To Guarantee R Rated Commercial Success In Economically Very Hard Times For All. So Maybe A Few Years Down The Line Well See That Maybe Ridley Was Doing Something That We Should Thank Him For (Keeping The Franchise Alive). But Only If He Does The Sequel And Finishes What He Started In Prometheus. If The Sequel Doesn’t Solve Some Of The Mysteries Of Alien (Not Prometheus) Then I Fear That The Sequel Will Be The Last Alien Universe Movie Most People Will Pay To Watch. I Hope I Am Wrong. Do You Agree With My Statement And Conclusions ? if You Don't Why Do You Think Ridley Made The Movie The Way He Did ? Then Was Lindelof Lying In The Abovementioned Website ? I Am Simply Trying To Give Ridley The Benefit Of The Doubt. He Has Done Good So Many Times. Why Would He Deliberately Do Things That Would Be Questioned By Fans And Critics After So Many Years Of Movie Making ? This Is Why I Have To Assume There Is Method In His "Madness".
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@oduodu I think you're quite right. Apparently Sir Ridley said in 2008 that (paraphrasing) "Science Fiction is as dead as the Western" so approaching it as you've described makes a lot of sense. Plus, of course, here we all are, beavoring away on his juggernaur of a website. Now if that doesn't sell tickets for a sequel, what will? BTW, if the movie had been as originally intended (Shaw dies and the answer to "why wipe out humanity et al?"is given) and people said, "What was that nonsense?" virally it could have destroyed any chance for the movie to make any money. This website proves there's a huge community of Alien franchise fans, most born after the 1979 release of Alien, and it's their cash that crosses the turnstiles.
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What goes on with the people who put up the money and the ones who follow insturctions cannot be talked about openly. The recent Thing movie was dissappointing to many. When the director had his feet put to fire, he commented eloquently that the STUDIO...wanted it this way. That is a polite way of saying...wasnt my idea. You go the same dynamics with every move made...Guys like Jackson and speilberg have enough clout to tell sutdios to KEEP QUIET and then they make the movie they want. Ridley doenst have that power..YET...is my take...good post here and thank you
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You can't trust anything anyone says about the production of a film. People are always going to either be polite or shift the blame. You could hate your job, but if someone sat down in your cubicle and stuck a camera in your face, you'd talk about how much you either love it or the problems that other people had.
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We dont know what goes on behind the curtain. But what we know - studios are money-makers. They want the maximum profite, thats the only rule in this game. Some movies flop, and other movies have to balance lost money. The studios dont talk about art, they talk about MARKETING and MONEY. With watching (and paying for) movies like prometheus we SHOW them that THIS IS WHAT WE WANT. If you dont like crap movies like battleship - then dont go to pay for this crap, its as simple as that! But there is no reason to make a movie with this budget so weak and unnecessary poor (!) like in prometheus - not only the un-answered questions! In Alien there are also main questions all the time completely unanswered since 30 years, but everbody loves Alien. Why Alien is such a masterpiece compared to prometheus? Because THE MOVIE and THE AUDIENCE know exactly what it is - a simple sci-fi-horror movie with that "genius factor" about developing characters and story. This is so brilliant in alien (crew and overall story development from start to end, with brilliant balance of "quite" moments and "cruel" moments. I miss this in prometheus. Is it action? no. Is it horror? not really. Is it PHILOSOPHCAL? Maybe it tries to be epic philosophy spectacle - but it does not bring to the surface WHAT IT WANTS TO SAY! I miss that courage to simply BRING the message, to SAY it, to SHOW it. I can not buy anything for the hint that 2000 years ago they wanted to kill mankind. Maybe because of christ? So are engineers catholic? Or was christ missionary of the engineers? Or didnt they simply love Ceasars haircut? Who the hell knows? THIS prevents satisfaction for the audience! PLUS - these characters that nobody gives a shit about! Who is Ford? Who is Vickers? I dont care one second about them in prometheus! I am happy when their screen appearance is OVER! Isnt this SAD? Hints are hints, but not answers. Plus, here we have not this brilliant crew and story development like in alien. So it tries to be several things, but is none of them totally, like tepid water it does not warm you from inside, and it also does not refresh you. It is WET, and that may be better then nothing - but it could have been so much better, and thats the point.
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@lindelost I completely agree with your argument. Alien is enjoyable for it's simplicity, but it also has so much more complexity going on. Prometheus claims it's complex, but can't back it up.
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Or compare to THE DARK KNIGHT... Hey, this is just another batman variation - why care? But Nolan did make the story SO BRILLIANT and it also asks IMPORTANT SERIOUS questions - its the question if "normal" people under special circumstances are willing to do CRUEL things. And THATS what makes it so phantastic - BECAUSE THAT IS THE TRUTH! Peope ARE beasts when you take bread and games away from them, if you bring them to some situation where they have to decide - he or me. So why prometheus does not SAY that the "theory" of that loving god, jesus with his sacrifice etc are just THEORIES that millions of people CHOOSE TO BELIEVE TO BE TRUE, though chance is much bigger that it IS NOT TRUE. Why not show an ALTERNATIVE, PLAUSIBLE version of a story how life started and whats the sense of this all - not to show the truth, but.. but.... BUT TO SHOW THAT THERE ARE ALSO COMPLeTE DIFFERNT POSSIBILITIES WHY AND HOW WE ARE HERE THAN THAT THEORY THAT RELIGION SELLS TO MANKIND SINCE THOUSANDS OF YEARS.... and these different possibilities are so plausible like any other theory... its just the question what you CHOOSE to belive...

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