New article is it correct?

Rrright!?

Yes still no evidence to say this is true so can't argue the point...I really hope Ridley does a proper bio about his life family and prometheus giving up the hidden secrets. And have it published after he's gone. But while he's alive I understand why we won't see much.

And yes even Howard the duck had fans out there no one can stop you liking something but the matter of it being muddled Ridley saying it was himself might change things some what. Anyway like I say we don't know yet. And yes I'm in the muddled but visually it was great and the original over all idea was great camp...just ended up disappointing...I'm still hoping for the patch up in part 2 maybe with flash backs...

I do not like Howard the Duck. Gotta draw the line somewhere...

Anyone can tell a story, but the trick is to tell it well. There a lots of factors to consider when looking at how well a movie delivers its story, and I think in the case of Prometheus a lot of the delivery was down to Lindelof’s characters. This is where I felt Prometheus fell short. That is only one area of delivery though and is not the bigger picture. I did not go to see Prometheus expecting just one movie. I came out expecting a sequel and that is what is now in the pipeline. The bigger picture is what comes next and I have felt that the main story has already been written, and quite some while back. I think the article referred to for this thread is just rewinding back the clock and doing nothing more than guessing even though it does raise some interesting points.

As for Ridley’s disappointment, that could be just about anything. The thing is that imo P1 and P2 are one story that was split into two. P1 being the set up and hopefully P2 will be the punchline. If that is the case then P1 was always going to be tricky to deliver because it is a bit like telling someone a joke and then saying, see you in a couple of years to hear the ending. I think Ridley has had to produce a film that does just exactly that with Prometheus, and has to want an audience want to come back and finish the tale.

I don’t think this is the first article we will have doing a bit of back peddling over old ground.

Pretty baffled by the lack of critical thinking, there is no evidence that verifies whether Ridley was in fact disappointed, this is mere conjecture. Ridley was happy with the theatrical and refused a Director's Cut for Christ's sake, that doesn't read as someone disappointed in his own film. Some healthy skepticism goes a long way, and I am also quite amused that dissenters of the film continue to languish on and on, the film really got under your skin, it seems lol. 

I apologize BSS1973.

http://www.empireonline.com/interviews/interview.asp?IID=1563

Spaihts says 
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Spaights: "The creature did change in some pretty dramatic ways from draft to draft. But the most dramatic change was the removal of the xenomorph from the film. That was a shift that happened at the same time as I stepped off the film. A lot of that push came from the studio very high up; they were interested in doing something original and not one more franchise film. That really came to a head at the studio - the major push to focus on the new mythology of Prometheus and dial the Aliens as far back as we could came down from the studio."

Just sayin.

Sorry, Spaihts quote doesn't change a thing, in my opinion.

The studio might've wanted to expand the storyline and create something more original (which is uusual and welcome, isn't it?) - THEN they hired Lindelof and Scott worked with him. The push for something less Alien-centric comes after bitter Spaihts depart the film. After that, there is all the rewriting of the original script. If Scott thought Lindelof's premise/story sucked, he'd have pushed for more rewrites.

The detail some of you is missing is actually quite simple: Sir Ridley Scott is not some no-name boy hot off film school. He's a veteran with considerable industry clout. I'll say it again: it makes no sense for him to accept whatever trash the studio supposedly throws his way and keep quiet. It just doesn't work that way when we're talking about Scott, Scorsese, Spielberg, Cameron etc.

Just as I was about to completely dismiss this thread, due to when the article took place and that I thought Ridley was somewhere in Australia.

Then this pops up

Ridley and Harrison Ford

Sorry if I'm missing something, but what does that have to do with this thread?

This thread asks about the validity of the article. Quite simply I had noticed the places and times cited, which convinced me that it was false if Ridley is/was in Australia. Just a simple thing that did not add up in my mind. So, it would appear that Ridley is in discussions with a lot of people in London. This would imo be the root of maybe further articles and leaks etc. As to the real validity of the article in question. No smoke without fire.

No smoke without fire.

Yes, but sometimes the fire is deliberately started by someone with malice.

Harrison Ford just got injured filming star wars lol maybe Ridley pretended to like him then got him back. Think he will be ok but he was airlifted to hospital but they are saying it was just the door to the millennium falcon fell on his ankle :p ...But they are also scanning his chest apparently who knows...

And yes Ridley is a veteran but there was a particular moment when I saw Ridley saying the studio pays the bills with a rye smile. And at the time it did make me think yes they control even him behind the scenes. Would be nice to know how much...

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Heh Yer I'm on a smart phone too though it just about works hard to type sometimes..

Well this is similar to what some person told me they heard the movie was going, in that its going to be more about David with a Ship carrying Hell on it, that he wishes to use for his Agenda and may not be going to Paradise but back to Earth.....

This would leave a lot of plot holes, well a story that would not match with Alien, unless its purely going as a Alternative like New Star Treks to the Older Movies.

I hope they dont go this route....

As far as disapointments... Yes Ridley was rumoured to not be happy with some elements, but untill you talk to him yourself you can not be 100% sure what he feels, as some rumours are he wanted a more Spaights draft and thus more about the Xeno Organism than the Space Jockey Race.

But for me the whole purpose of the movie was who are the Space Jockeys, that should had been covered or led to be covered by future movies as the main angle of the plot, with the Xeno and connection and how Weyland Yutani came about being sub plots.

And no soon as they went the route that these Engineers could be the Space Jockey or at very least related somehow and these Engineers played a part in our creation, and visits to Earth and Ancient mankind that we interpreted as many Ancient Gods etc...

This was a massive scope for a truly immense universe and plot, but with that comes a lot of hype to pull it off and thus could be a bit of a poisoned challace, compared to if they went the route that the Space Jockey/Engineers was some Alien Race from far far away that happend to have some connection to the Xeno and was either experimenting on them, or created them as a experiment of that they simply found them and wanted to exploit them but they got burnt by them just as the Humans in Alien Franchise did.

This would have been a more simplier way to go, but now they gone the Engineers/Space Jockey created or played a hand in our Creation and Visits to us over the thousands of years of our Evolution and that they may had played a hand in the Xeno creation or at very least re-engineer it or its predessor..

While they gone the Engineers/Space Jockey = Mankinds creator route they surely cant now go and drop that element or at least not touch up on it again....

The only things i can pick up about the movie changes are...

That Ridley seemed to be happy with Spaights draft, Fox wanted to tone down the Xeno Element and explore the Engineers and Weyland elements....  Lindeloff came in to change things a bit.

And Ridley had said that he felt the Spaights draft was too connected to Alien and that where they was going with this movie was to open up a new route that would lead to a new universe to explore while giving us hints to the Alien/Space Jockey connection.

This does not show that Ridley disliked Lindeloff draft or agreed and loved it.

Seems yes Fox pulls the strings but they own the Franchise, if Ridley wanted Part 2 to b like a Alien 5 and Fox wanted no Xenos in it at all, and Ridley rejected this.. can Ridley then provent a Part 2.. nope... Fox can go and get someone else in and change the story to ways that Ridley may not have wanted... this happened with Aliens,  Fox got Cameron in on it and Ridley could not say how he wanted the movie to proceed....

i would assume Ridley would play ball with Fox because he would rather have some input on the Franchise and the origins of the Xeno and who the Space Jockey are as opposed to no input.

I would think that any disapointment that he really has could be down to firstly the time allowed and budget, i am sure Ridley would have loved to have been able to produce a longer movie with higher budget but he had to work to restraints.

2nd Disapointment i think would be how the movie was recieved, and 3rd i think there are certain aspects in hindsight that Ridley would have loved to have done differently....

Maybe add more of the Alien Horror Element, as Prometheus lacked that from Alien and any Action from Aliens, was more of a 2001 Space Oddesy/Lost in Space meets our Ancient Creators kind of a Sci Fi movie.

I think Ridley may had been disapointed with he look and scale of the Engineers, and Elders, i think they have been cut and other scenes to portray the Engineers as merely a servant race, basically just a Biological David 8 for the Elders.

And thus maybe cutting the Elders allows for them to redesign them as a more Magestic Godlike race...